interesting Orb results

MidniteEffort Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:47 pm

Masticore - 5 (no Razormane. the original had 5 instances of this word on the card, but it's reserve list... new one!)
Shaman - 3 (they are NOT supporting this class anymore)
Locus - 2 (allows for "add ~ for each Locus..." insanity)
Imprint - 5 (that's IT)
Ignus - 2 (really!)
Grinning - 0 (oh rats)
Bloodshot - 3
Trainee - 2
Trainee's - 1 (uh, yea, it's in)
Karn - 0 (womp womp)
Loxodon - 1 (could i have my old limited combo?)
Warhammer - 0 ( Sad

no )
Spikeshot - 2
Goblin - 9 (well, maybe one piece. and there might be BETTER equipment!)

Uniclonus Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:14 pm

For the Locus result, I wouldn't be shocked if it ended up being another Omnath. Though if it were to be a land, I'd think it would end up having the Locus type, tap for colorless and tap for any color if you control another Locus.

The low number of Imprint surprises me. Returning mechanic, I'd have thought it would get more. Could be they're spreading it through the whole block.

The lack of Karn makes sense to me. They have to know it would be popular and sought after card no matter what it does. I figure if they're doing a new one, they're save it for the second or third set in the block in order to help drive sales.

And why is Trainee's showing up an interesting result? I think I'm missing something.

Slyphidine Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:55 am

Leonin Arbiter
1W
Creature - Cat Cleric
Players can't search libraries. Any player may pay 2 to ignore this effect until the end of the turn
2/2
Rare

Damnit, first Tectonic Edge, then this... stop hosing Valakut!

MidniteEffort Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:19 am

Uniclonus wrote:And why is Trainee's showing up an interesting result? I think I'm missing something.

take a look at the Oracle text of Bloodshot Trainee:

Bloodshot Trainee
3R
Creature - Goblin Warrior
{T}: Bloodshot Trainee deals 4 damage to target creature. Activate this ability only if Bloodshot Trainee's power is 4 or greater.
2/3

matches up with the Orb results:

Bloodshot - 3
Trainee - 2
Trainee's - 1

MidniteEffort Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:07 am

Trigon of Contagion
Artifact (U)
Trigon of Contagion enters the battlefield with three charge counters on it.
GG, T: Put a charge counter on Trigon of Contagion.
2, T, Remove a charge counter from Trigon of Contagion: Put a 1/1 green Insect creature token with infect onto the battlefield.

Slyphidine Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:21 am

Exsanguinate XBB
Sorcery
Uncommon
Each opponent loses X life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.

Big Deck Staple? Reminiscent of Kokusho (without the 5/5 flying body and recursion... ok, nothing like Kokusho).

MidniteEffort Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:43 am

Slyphidine wrote:Exsanguinate XBB
Sorcery
Uncommon
Each opponent loses X life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.

Big Deck Staple? Reminiscent of Kokusho (without the 5/5 flying body and recursion... ok, nothing like Kokusho).

that's a cheese-out in Big Deck. we'll vote on this one later...

MidniteEffort Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:45 am

Spoiler:

Slyphidine Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:24 pm

No comment on this guy?

Molten-Tail Masticore
4
Artifact Creature - Masticore
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Molten-Tail Masticore unless you discard a card.
4, Exile a creature card from your graveyard: Molten-Tail Masticore deals 4 damage to target creature or player.
2: Regenerate Molten-Tail Masticore.
Mythic Rare

Spicy!

MidniteEffort Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:36 pm

Slyphidine wrote:No comment on this guy?

there is exactly one comment on this guy.

Slyphidine wrote:Spicy!

Galvanic Blast
R
Instant
~ deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
Metalcraft - ~ deals 4 damage to that target creature or player instead if you control three or more artifacts.
Mirrodin has little weather, but it certainly has lightning.

the next strictly-better Shock!

MidniteEffort Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:45 pm

Prototype Portal
4
Artifact
Imprint - When Prototype Portal enters the battlefield, you may exile an artifact card from your hand.
X, T: Put a token that's a copy of the exiled card onto the battlefield. X is the converted mana cost of that card.

OMG a Soul Foundry for artifacts!

MidniteEffort Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:01 pm

Spoiler:

Slyphidine Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:36 am

Indomitable Archangel
2WW
Creature Angel
Flying
Metalcraft -Artifacts you control have shroud
4/4
Mythic Rare

Another card for your deck, Jim. Fulfills the color requirement, and is an efficient 4/4 flier to boot.

Zuty Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:53 am

Sure you have ALL seen this by now, but I want to know your feelings on this card.

Scars of Mirrodin Spoiler - Page 3 Attachment

Out of ALL the cards trying to be Counterspell (Cancel, Deprive, and Unified Will) this seems the best so far. Unified Will CAN be a close second if you run lots of creatures or can wipe their board while you still stand tall with tokens or something, but Stoic Rebuttal will be much easier to pull off; especially if they make an artifact land line, which A LOT of people are complaining and debating against, but I think it could still happen.

Metalcraft IS NOT Affinity, people need to remember that. Sure, I can drop an artifact land, pay 1 with that land to drop another artifact, and finish off with a zero CC artifact and have Metalcraft turn on, but it's not as easy as Affinity was. You could drop an artifact land, Ornithopter, Welding Jar, and a 1 drop artifact, now you can drop all the Frogmites in your hand, now you can drop all your Myr Enforcers, and finish off with Mycosynth Golem into 4 DSC and Platinum Angels. Of course I am over exaggerating how well Affinity worked, but I don't think I need to explain how well it did to you guys.

Metalcraft =/= Afffinity. Artifact lands will NOT break the set, sure you will be dropping 2 for a 4/4 or 4 for an 8/8 Trampler, but you'd eventually get there anyway without the artifact lands and you STILL need to pay for the spell, no dropping your hand for free.

~Zuty

Slyphidine Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:49 am

All I say is it's strictly better than Cancel, but still not that exciting. Would you rather jump through hoops to maybe have a Counterspell, or just play something like Deprive or Mana Leak and not have to contort your deck?

True Conviction
3WWW
Enchantment
Rare
Creatures you control have doublestrike and lifelink.
Illus. Svetlin Velinov #25/249

I forsee at least one big deck game ending in a spectacularly silly fashion because of this card. Very bad card while the Hippodrome is in play.

I've said it before, but the people in the Hippodrome crowd look like Skittles to me. Discuss!

Zuty Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:54 am

Slyphidine wrote:All I say is it's strictly better than Cancel, but still not that exciting. Would you rather jump through hoops to maybe have a Counterspell, or just play something like Deprive or Mana Leak and not have to contort your deck?

Ah ... True fact is true! I'd use this over any of the Counterspell Wanna-Be cards, but my deck would still run Mana Leaks ... FOR THEY ARE OP! OP I SAY!

I've said it before, but the people in the Hippodrome crowd look like Skittles to me. Discuss!

Isn't that the plane where everything is like super-small? (Kind of the reason behind the -5 ATK) Probably the right size for a skittle ... and now I have a crazing for skittles, but nothing small enough for the vend-o-tron machine TT__TT

~Zuty

MidniteEffort Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:26 pm

Slyphidine wrote:I've said it before, but the people in the Hippodrome crowd look like Skittles to me. Discuss!

using tilt-shift to make it look miniature was genius!

The Hippodrome
Plane - Segovia
All creatures get -5/-0, and are Skittles in addition to their other creature types.
Chaos - Whenever you roll ~chaos~, you may destroy target Skittle creature if its power is 0 or less.

Glint Hawk
W
Creature - Bird
Common
Flying
When Glint Hawk enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you return an artifact you control to its owner's hand.
Its eyes burned nearly blind by the Whitesun, it hunts by metallic gleam.
Illus. Dave Allsop #10/249

imagine a first turn Memnite, into Glint Hawk, bouncing Memnite, then replaying Memnite.

in Limited!

Very Happy

EDIT:

@misterorange Awesome 1st Turn Glint Hawk kill: Mox Pearl, Hawk; Pearl, Hawk #2; Pearl, Hawk #3; Pearl, Hawk #4; Lotus, Tendrils of Agony, kill you

looks like Evin Erwin was thinking a little bigger than me. i think Limited, not Vintage!

ALSO:
where are my goofy artifacts like Spellweaver Helix and Timesifter?!

Uniclonus Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:45 pm

Shape Anew
3U
Rare
Sorcery
The controller of target artifact sacrifices it, then reveals cards from the top of his or her library until he or she reveals an artifact card. That player puts that card onto the battlefield, then shuffles all other cards revealed this way into his or her library.

Polymorph for artifacts... yeah, I like it.

MidniteEffort Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:29 pm

Uniclonus wrote:Polymorph for artifacts... yeah, I like it.

they keep changing the first part of this effect.

Polymorph was "Destroy..."
Mass Polymorph was "Exile..."
and this is "...sacrifices..."

i wish they'd be more consistent with similar weird effects.

MidniteEffort Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:35 pm

Ok, so you play your Precursor Golem and he summons his buddies. That's 1 Precursor Golem and two 3/3 tokens, for a total of 3 guys.

So after one Rite of Replication we've already shown we now have added five more Precursor Golems and 20 more 3/3 tokens. Adding to what we had first, that's now 6 Precursor Golems and 22 3/3 golem tokens, for a total of 28 guys.

What's that? You have Cast Through Time out and you're paying the kicker cost on your rebounded Rite of Replication? ZOMG!

So slowly, we get 5 copies of each of our 28 creatures in play. Getting the 3/3 tokens out of the way, that's 22x5 or an additional 110 3/3 tokens. For the 6 Precursor Golems, that's 5 more of each for an additional 30 Precursor Golems. Each of those golems gives us two 3/3 tokens, so that's another 60 3/3 tokens. Added to the previous 110, we have a total of 170 additional 3/3 tokens and 30 additional Precursor Golems, making for 200 more 3/3s to add to the ranks.

3+25+200=228 total guys 3/3 creatures.

You just played played Burst of Speed? All your creatures are hasty and attacking! And then you played Might of the Masses? THIS IS CRAZY HOW ARE YOU SO GOOD AT MAGIC?!

So you have +228/+228 to all your 3/3 creatures (all 228 of them). (228+3)*228 means you are attacking for a grand total of 52,668 damage. SURELY THIS IS THE GREATEST SWING EVER

"Lightning Bolt".

had to show you this... it's from MTGS. exciting!

Slyphidine Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:55 pm

Nice.

Anthony and I were talking about Forked Bolt with a ton of them out. Target the first golem with both instances of Forked Bolt, then maybe split it for the rest.

You are right, it is a weird card.

redxxii Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:08 am

I'm really starting to like the Myrs and the Smith-cycle. I think I might do a Myr sub-theme in my deck, if enough of them are printed in the next few blocks.

MidniteEffort Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:10 am

redxxii wrote:I'm really starting to like the Myrs and the Smith-cycle. I think I might do a Myr sub-theme in my deck, if enough of them are printed in the next few blocks.

i know, right! i have a bonafide Myr deck from the first Mirrodin... using Blinkmoth Urn to make a ton of mana to dump into Myr Matrix. i'm gonna have to move stuff around in that one!

now THAT was a cool idea.

Spoiler:

now, if your opponent casts the last card in their hand, can they choose to discard even if they don't have any cards in hand?

Slyphidine Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:55 am

MidniteEffort wrote:now, if your opponent casts the last card in their hand, can they choose to discard even if they don't have any cards in hand?

I would think the discarding is part of the cost, rather than an effect. If you don't discard the card, you don't get the effect. I could be wrong here.

MidniteEffort Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:02 am

Slyphidine wrote:I would think the discarding is part of the cost, rather than an effect. If you don't discard the card, you don't get the effect. I could be wrong here.

so what exactly happens?

Trigon of Thought
5
Artifact
Trigon of Thought enters the battlefield with 3 charge counters on it.
{U}{U}, {T}: Put a charge counter on Trigon of Thought.
{2}, {T}, Remove a charge counter from Trigon of Thought: Draw a card.

wow!

Maro on Twitter wrote:maro254 Myr is pronounced "meer" as in rhymes with "beer". This is why the playest name Light Myr has come up multiple times.

jsyk

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