Re: New Phyrexia Spoiler

redxxii Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:55 pm

MidniteEffort wrote:
Slyphidine wrote:Just posted on mtgsalvation about Karn's ultimate:

Sorry if this has already been brought up, but the translations I've seen of Karn's ultimate so far are not complete. It says:

"Set aside all non-aura permanents exiled by Karn, The Exiled, then restart the game. Then put all cards set aside this way onto the battlefield under your control."

...now that's insane.

hey, uh, we're going to have to think hard about allowing this in Big Deck. getting all of the permanents would be fine alone; restarting the game is HELLA annoying in our huge roundtable games.

Yeah, even in a duel this could be really stupid (considering some of our duels can go 20-30 minutes if not longer). Then again, if someone can play Karn and protect him till he goes Ultimate they probably deserve to win.

redxxii Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:14 pm

Colored artifacts and more Proliferate? This might be my favorite set ever!

MidniteEffort Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:13 am

anybody getting a Tarmogoyf vibe from this little guy?

~Scrapmetal Fiend
r
Creature - Construct Rare
~'s power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifact cards in all graveyards.
Illus. Mike Bierek #95/175 */*

redxxii Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:33 am

MidniteEffort wrote:anybody getting a Tarmogoyf vibe from this little guy?

~Scrapmetal Fiend
r
Creature - Construct Rare
~'s power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifact cards in all graveyards.
Illus. Mike Bierek #95/175 */*

I don't think it will be Tarmogoyf good, but I think it'll find a home in my artifact Big Deck.

MidniteEffort Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:37 pm

granted, your opponent is not as likely to be helping you build this guy up, however every next Fiend you play will be as big as any other. additionally, every Fiend is scalable past a Tarmogoyf level, so its lack of "helpability" from your opponent is bolstered by the unlimited scalability of the Fiend in your deck... which is built to throw artifacts in the graveyard. so while i don't think it's as versatile as 'goyf, it sure can be as powerful in the right deck.

redxxii Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:58 pm

MidniteEffort wrote:granted, your opponent is not as likely to be helping you build this guy up, however every next Fiend you play will be as big as any other. additionally, every Fiend is scalable past a Tarmogoyf level, so its lack of "helpability" from your opponent is bolstered by the unlimited scalability of the Fiend in your deck... which is built to throw artifacts in the graveyard. so while i don't think it's as versatile as 'goyf, it sure can be as powerful in the right deck.

It might find a home in decks with Shrapnel Blast or in the SB against Affinity.

intrinsic Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:03 pm

Psychological Surgery is a massive FUCK YOU to the standard Boros deck. I laughed out loud when i read that one.

Slyphidine Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:55 am

Spellsplitter
2
Artifact Creature - Horror
Rare
{PU}: Target spell or ability that targets only a single creature targets ~ instead.
({PU} may be paid for with either {U} or 2 life.)
Illus. Chippy #159/175 0/4

How did I miss this guy? This is awesome. I can see this fucking up Big Deck and (probably more) EDH cards for years to come. It sure turns off my Pestermite combo!

And it's an 0/4 for 2. It's completely splashable. I love it.

redxxii Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:36 am

Slyphidine wrote:Spellsplitter
2
Artifact Creature - Horror
Rare
{PU}: Target spell or ability that targets only a single creature targets ~ instead.
({PU} may be paid for with either {U} or 2 life.)
Illus. Chippy #159/175 0/4

How did I miss this guy? This is awesome. I can see this fucking up Big Deck and (probably more) EDH cards for years to come. It sure turns off my Pestermite combo!

And it's an 0/4 for 2. It's completely splashable. I love it.

The problem is though that the re-directed spell can only target the Spellspliter, which is great when dealing with enchantments and stuff but not-so-good when it's something like a Doom Blade. It's basically a Flag-Bearer.

Slyphidine Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:58 am

Too true... if only there were a card that is totally dominating standard that could be nerfed by Spellsplitter...

Unless rulings say otherwise, that is. However, having a "free" answer to the above card seems pretty good to me.

EDIT: It seems unlikely this works.

This guy also scarfs down bolts.

Zuty Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:37 pm

Still no Leeches ... I am sad Sad

~Zuty

redxxii Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:57 pm

I didn't think that Spellsplitter could re-direct equipment, since you can't legally equip an opponent's creatures.

MidniteEffort Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:20 pm

Slyphidine wrote:Too true... if only there were a card that is totally dominating standard that could be nerfed by Spellsplitter...

Unless rulings say otherwise, that is. However, having a "free" answer to the above card seems pretty good to me.

yea, it doesn't work. associated rulings:

Spoiler:

Slyphidine Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:33 pm

I still like the card a lot. Just the fact that for free you can redirect a bunch of stuff is really cool.

redxxii Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:04 pm

Slyphidine wrote:I still like the card a lot. Just the fact that for free you can redirect a bunch of stuff is really cool.

Maybe you can add Standard Bearer to your Cube then.

Slyphidine Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:03 pm

redxxii wrote:Maybe you can add Standard Bearer to your Cube then.

Really, Jim, you're going to attack a single card I like? Don't make me go back through the previous spoilers and list all the cards you gushed over.

And for the record, I am going to take you down with that card in Big Deck. Not the redirect ability. I'm going to give him +1/+0 and smack you silly.

MidniteEffort Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:29 pm

redxxii wrote:
Slyphidine wrote:I still like the card a lot. Just the fact that for free you can redirect a bunch of stuff is really cool.

Maybe you can add Standard Bearer to your Cube then.

Jim's not impressed.

this card is better than a Flagbearer because you choose what spell or ability gets shunted.

Slyphidine Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:36 pm

It's also a 0/4 for 2 instead of a 1/1 for 1W.

redxxii Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:57 pm

Slyphidine wrote:
redxxii wrote:Maybe you can add Standard Bearer to your Cube then.

Really, Jim, you're going to attack a single card I like? Don't make me go back through the previous spoilers and list all the cards you gushed over.

And for the record, I am going to take you down with that card in Big Deck. Not the redirect ability. I'm going to give him +1/+0 and smack you silly.

Aren't I allowed to hate occasionally?

But yeah, I really am enjoying the rest of the set, I can't wait to see what the rest of the Praetors do.

Slyphidine Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:17 am

Surgical Extraction (P/B)
Instant
( (P/B) can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Choose target card in a graveyard other than a basic land card. Search its owner's graveyard, hand, and library for all cards with the same name as that card and exile them. Then that player shuffles his or her library.

Free Extirpate! (minus that whole important Split Second thing)

MidniteEffort Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:03 am

Slyphidine wrote:Surgical Extraction (P/B)
Instant
( (P/B) can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Choose target card in a graveyard other than a basic land card. Search its owner's graveyard, hand, and library for all cards with the same name as that card and exile them. Then that player shuffles his or her library.

Free Extirpate! (minus that whole important Split Second thing)

FINALLY Wizards has listened to me. they are finally adding peanut butter mana to the game!

Generous Spreading
(P/B)(P/B)(P/B)
Instant
Target Sandwich and/or Cracker becomes fucking delicious.

MidniteEffort Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:45 am

Sheoldred, Whispering One 5BB
6/6
Swampwalk
At the beginning of your upkeep, return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, that player sacrifices a creature.

o0o0o new Reya + one-sided Abyss!

fun for my old reanimator, limited goodness, otherwise awful.

redxxii Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:20 am

I'm liking the cards they previewed today, especially the metalcraft-themed Path to Exile.

Uniclonus Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:34 am

I'm digging the Phyrexian mana pump spell. I'm gonna love using it as a surprise in Limited with an Infect deck. Hell, between that and Invigorate, I'm thinking a Legacy aggro Infect deck is starting to look more viable. Depends on if we get any good 1-drop Infect dudes.

I also liked hearing about the Splicers, if only for more interesting options for my token deck. Can't wait to see what the others do.

MidniteEffort Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:50 am

New Phyrexia Spoiler - Page 2 Attachment

never thought i'd see Bullet Bill in Magic. even goes through walls like the original.

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