Commander Spoiler

Slyphidine Thu May 26, 2011 8:39 am

http://mtgsalvation.com/commander-spoiler.html

Just added a few nice ones.

Edric, Spymaster of Trest
1UG
Legendary Creature - Elf Rogue
Whenever a creature deals combat damage to one of your opponents, that creature's controller may draw a card.
2/2
"I am not at liberty to reveal my sources, but I can assure you, the price on your head is high."
Illus. Volkan Baga

Wow, so every creature of yours becomes a Thieving Magpie, and every opponent has an incentive not to attack you. Very cool.

Skullbriar, the Walking Grave
BG
Legendary Creature - Zombie Elemental
Haste
Whenever Skullbriar, the Walking grave deals combat damage to a player, put a +1/+1 counter on it.
Counters remain on Skullbriar as it moves to any zone other than a player's hand or library.
1/1
Illus. Nils Hamm

Awesome!

Uniclonus Thu May 26, 2011 8:57 am

Edric is kinda interesting, and will probably make for all kinds of weird attacks in multiplayer games.

My reaction to Skullbriar was "WHAT!?!". That is some downright wacky rules text and card.

MidniteEffort Thu May 26, 2011 9:56 am

i really want the spores guy to come out.... i really hope he interacts with Fallen Empires/Time Spiral fungi!

i like Basandra. i only wish that it also said "Creatures can't tap except to attack".

EDIT: or it said "Players can't cast spells or activate abilities during combat." with some clause that made Basandra's other ability not turned off by that one.

intrinsic Thu May 26, 2011 2:39 pm

So wait, is it a typo or does Edric make everyone's creatures "thieving magpie". It doesnt say one of YOUR creatures. It just says when creatures deal damage to an opponent, that creatures controller may draw... That could hurt you more than help?

and so Skullbriar keeps counters even in the GY or when Exiled then? Or when Phased even! hahaha

Zuty Thu May 26, 2011 3:28 pm

Love all of it.

~Zuty

Slyphidine Thu May 26, 2011 3:48 pm

intrinsic wrote:So wait, is it a typo or does Edric make everyone's creatures "thieving magpie". It doesnt say one of YOUR creatures. It just says when creatures deal damage to an opponent, that creatures controller may draw... That could hurt you more than help?

Not a typo, and almost every time it helps you. The key line is "to one of your opponents." You will be attacked much less frequently, because you are the only player who doesn't provide card advantage when damaged. Your general will never die, because that takes away the card advantage engine from everyone. In the same way that Propaganda gently changes the target of attacks away from you, this card makes it so they want you and your general to survive, and you reap just as much card advantage from hitting all your opponents. I think it's a brilliant card ~~for assholes like John Wolsky~~.

intrinsic Thu May 26, 2011 6:04 pm

i cant wait to see her in foil.

And im not going to be able to avoid calling her Nine Inch Nails, the Pain Artist hahaha

redxxii Thu May 26, 2011 8:14 pm

I really like the BW Vampire, that's a really nice set of abilities for his colors. I'd love the idea of sac'ing a creature at the end of your turn, swinging for a ton of damage, then killing one of your creatures during your combat step. Plus, as an added bonus you can use his abilities multiple times a turn if you have enough creatures to spare.

I think I'll need to get a few more copies of Gravepact, Phyrexian Arena, and Oversold Cemetery for EDH construction.

intrinsic Thu May 26, 2011 9:29 pm

redxxii wrote:
I think I'll need to get a few more copies of ... for EDH construction.

Even though its highlander?
Razz

MidniteEffort Fri May 27, 2011 10:00 am

intrinsic wrote:i cant wait to see her in foil.

And im not going to be able to avoid calling her Nine Inch Nails, the Pained Artist hahaha

MidniteEffort Fri May 27, 2011 11:23 am

The other 36 new cards will include "Command Towers" which can produce mana

anybody speculate what that could mean? i bet they'll be Big Deck worthy too

Uniclonus Fri May 27, 2011 1:09 pm

Leading theory I've seen is they're either 'wedge' tri-lands or 'wedge' obelisks.
Another theory was there's one for each color and they have some ability that restricted for commander use. Like 'taps for black' and 'taps for any color or 2 colorless or something that can only be used to cast a commander'.

For Big Deck: If they're tri-lands, they're basically a must have. If they're obelisks, I don't think they'd be good enough. If they've got some ability that's restricted to commander use, they'll be useless.

Slyphidine Fri May 27, 2011 1:41 pm

Wedge tri-lands would be soooo sweet!

Sorry to not contribute to anything here...

Uniclonus Fri May 27, 2011 1:51 pm

Yeah, they would be rather nifty. But I worry that they'd end up being the most expensive things on the secondary market to come out of these decks, barring some other overly bitchin' card.

MidniteEffort Fri May 27, 2011 2:00 pm

Slyphidine wrote:Wedge tri-lands would be soooo sweet!

Sorry to not contribute to anything here...

nah dude i TOTALLY AGREE ZOMG

intrinsic Fri May 27, 2011 6:53 pm

Slyphidine wrote:Wedge tri-lands would be soooo sweet!

Sorry to not contribute to anything here...

this isnt MTGS, no web police to warn or ban you LOL

~~Infraction for arbitrary power trip from the mod~~

~~Bolded red text is reserved for awesome mods only. Infraction.~~

Everyone knows italicized dark red is the true color of authority. Warning.

dark burn Sat May 28, 2011 12:28 am

Slyphidine wrote:
intrinsic wrote:So wait, is it a typo or does Edric make everyone's creatures "thieving magpie". It doesnt say one of YOUR creatures. It just says when creatures deal damage to an opponent, that creatures controller may draw... That could hurt you more than help?

Not a typo, and almost every time it helps you. The key line is "to one of your opponents." You will be attacked much less frequently, because you are the only player who doesn't provide card advantage when damaged. Your general will never die, because that takes away the card advantage engine from everyone. In the same way that Propaganda gently changes the target of attacks away from you, this card makes it so they want you and your general to survive, and you reap just as much card advantage from hitting all your opponents. I think it's a brilliant card for assholes like John Wolsky.

Fixed.

I really do love both the graveyard creature and the magpie guy. I want both of them badly.

MidniteEffort Tue May 31, 2011 8:15 am

dark burn wrote:
Slyphidine wrote:
intrinsic wrote:So wait, is it a typo or does Edric make everyone's creatures "thieving magpie". It doesnt say one of YOUR creatures. It just says when creatures deal damage to an opponent, that creatures controller may draw... That could hurt you more than help?

Not a typo, and almost every time it helps you. The key line is "to one of your opponents." You will be attacked much less frequently, because you are the only player who doesn't provide card advantage when damaged. Your general will never die, because that takes away the card advantage engine from everyone. In the same way that Propaganda gently changes the target of attacks away from you, this card makes it so they want you and your general to survive, and you reap just as much card advantage from hitting all your opponents. I think it's a brilliant card for assholes like John Wolsky.

Fixed.

I really do love both the graveyard creature and the magpie guy. I want both of them badly.

i'm definitely on board for Edric. he's also kind of a Brandon kind of card, i.e. giving people concessions.

redxxii Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:35 am

There's going to be a Sol Ring in each pre-conn... holy shit!

Slyphidine Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:35 am

Damn... there goes the rising value of Sol Ring...

Uniclonus Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:36 am

Well, that's hilariously cool

intrinsic Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:13 pm

What are your collective thoughts on my trading my foil Jace2 in for all 5 sets of these? I couldnt afford them otherwise.

MidniteEffort Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:16 pm

GOOD CHOICE

one card ---> 500 + 15 oversized foils? that's a good decision.

redxxii Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:46 pm

intrinsic wrote:What are your collective thoughts on my trading my foil Jace2 in for all 5 sets of these? I couldn't afford them otherwise.

Seems like a good idea to me, especially with the price for the complete set going at around $145 right now. You might be able to have some extra items thrown in depending on where prices rest on the release date.

Uniclonus Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:39 pm

Not knowing the current going rate for a foil Jace2, I'd say go for it. I'd be expecting his price to drop by some amount after he rotates in the fall, so it kinda makes sense to unload him soon. Especially if you don't have any particular need for him beyond trade bait (like you already have some non-foil Jace).
I would suggest maybe either waiting to see more of the decklists to make sure it's worth it to you (though the 5 Sol Rings and new cards probably help), or maybe seeing if you can get some extra stuff along with it.

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