Big Deck o' Tokens

http://deckbox.org/sets/31750
I finally got around to recording the whole thing. Feel free to comment, critique, and openly mock my card choices.
And I already know I need to work on the land base.

You're a hermit short... where's Deranged?

At the present moment, I don't have a Deranged Hermit to put in. As soon as I get one again, it's definitely going in.

Nature's Claim? really!?

and where is Myr Matrix?

Must agree with Steve on that one. The one-drop-ness of Nature's Claim is hardly relevant in Big Deck, but giving an opponent 4 life often is. I'm not going to scour your list, but there should be Disenchant, Naturalize, Dismantling Blow, Orim's Thunder, and Deglamer before Nature's Claim.

Nature's Claim was a simple matter of wanting another piece of Artifact/Enchantment removal and it being the first one I came across at the time. It's basically a placeholder till I can go digging through unsorted bunches of cards for other options.

Myr Matrix, like the Hermit, I just don't have right now otherwise it would be in.
And I've now added a list of things I don't have but will go in when I get them under the sideboard portion of the deck.

wait, i just didn't see another biggie for token decks... Selesnya Guildmage! he makes tokens, and makes your team bigger!

I can bring one of him also tonight. I think I just picked up a few.

how about Kabira Vindicator? seems that potential +2/+2 could be pretty good.

Dogpile
Ramosian Rally
Rites of Initiation
Run (Hit/Run)
Violent Outburst
Stir the Pride
Vitalizing Wind
Zealous Persecution

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~Zuty

I thought about the Vindicator when I was looking at anthems, and I'm just not sure about it. +2/+2 is a pretty good boost, but I have the standard level-up worry the I'd sink all that mana into the thing, only to have it eat a terror or path. I'll have to think about him more. That and play the deck some more, see if there's any cards that aren't working out so that I could try swaping the Vindicator in for.

Any temporary pump would have to be either good/significant or repeatable. A simple +1/+0 or +1/+1 just won't cut it.
Run looks like it would have potential, but I'd put Overwhelming Stampede in before that (only reason it's not in yet is I haven't found a blatant opening).
Stir the Pride is actually a bit interesting, if only for the asshole lifegain possibility of it.
As for Dogpile, strikes me as a bit meh. Every once in a while I might get a surprise kill out of it, but outside of those situations, it doesn't seem worth it.

Uniclonus wrote:
As for Dogpile, strikes me as a bit meh. Every once in a while I might get a surprise kill out of it, but outside of those situations, it doesn't seem worth it.

Early on it is very 'meh', but swinging in with even 5 guys and then dropping this seems pretty good. You can blast out a nasty wall or just do straight up damage. How many times have you swung with everything only to be Fogged? Well now you can Dogpile and still do a good amount of damage. I think Dogpile is a very nice common to be running in a zerg/token pooping deck.

~Zuty

Zuty wrote:How many times have you swung with everything only to be Fogged?

i'll say, in Big Deck, zero.

i've only seen one Fog effect in Big Deck, ever, and it's in mine (Constant Mists). i only have it because 1) my deck is defensive, 2) it has buyback which is a sub-theme of my deck, and 3) it's repeatable (see #2). Fog effects aren't too popular in BD, sorry.

I'll add that Dogpile requires that:

1.) You have at least 4 creatures (to make it worthwhile)
2.) You don't need any of those creatures for defense, as they will be tapped while attacking
3.) You are able to attack with all those creatures (hopefully favorably)
4.) You only need to burn someone or something out during your attack step
4.5) You don't need to cast anything big post-combat
5.) Your opponents don't have a way to kill one or more of those attacking creatures

Or, I can cast Flame Javelin, Lightning Bolt, Comet Storm, or any other burn that is significantly less limiting. Not worth a slot in my opinion.

What they said

Im putting dogpile in my aggro big deck and killing all of you.

Dogpile + Radiate?

A little present for your token deck. Crop as needed:

Ha! That is awesomely cheesy. I love it. Thanks.

i was spamming the random card button on magiccards.info and i found this lil forgotten gem.



what do you think?

I know of it. Never really considered it as an option, as I figure if I'm gonna sac dudes, I wanna do something proactive rather than reactive. Definitely fun political potential though. I may try to shoehorn it in sometime if I find a reasonable opening.

This reminds me, I need to get around to updating the Deckbox.org listing for this deck, my Karn EDH, and make a listing for my original Big Deck sometime.

Well, I got around to doing the requisite updating on deckbox. So feel free to look and laugh derisively at me.